Pour tout savoir sur sa carrière en tant que proprietaire
Les pourcentages indiqués dans les tableaux ci-dessous correspondent aux taux de réussite en pari Simple Gagnant et Simple Placé de Ecurie Jérôme David en fonction de différents paramètres (hippodrome, discipline, jour de course, etc.).
Hippodrome | Réussite Gagnant/Placé |
---|---|
Feurs |
0%
100%
|
Carpentras |
0%
100%
|
Lyon Parilly |
0%
100%
|
Discipline | Réussite Gagnant/Placé |
---|---|
Attelé |
8%
18%
|
Jockey | Réussite Gagnant/Placé |
---|---|
Bekaert D. |
0%
100%
|
Raffin E. |
67%
67%
|
De Meyer M. |
25%
50%
|
Entraîneur | Réussite Gagnant/Placé |
---|---|
Messager M. |
0%
24%
|
David J. |
8%
14%
|
Jour | Réussite Gagnant/Placé |
---|---|
Samedi |
5%
21%
|
Mercredi |
13%
19%
|
Jeudi |
9%
9%
|
Statistiques calculées au 05/05/2024 sur la totalité de la carrière du proprietaire, hors courses PMH.
Simple Gagnant | Simple Placé | |||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Hippodrome | Réussite | Rapport Moyen | Rentabilité | Nbre de courses | Réussite | Rapport Moyen | Rentabilité | Nbre de courses | ||
Feurs | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
100% | 3,10€ | 210% |
1/1
|
||
Carpentras | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
100% | 6,80€ | 580% |
1/1
|
||
Lyon Parilly | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
100% | 2,50€ | 150% |
1/1
|
||
Nantes | 29% | 5,35€ | 53% |
2/7
|
57% | 5,18€ | 196% |
4/7
|
||
Cordemais | 50% | 3€ | 50% |
1/2
|
50% | 1,60€ | -20% |
1/2
|
||
Le Mans | 33% | 13,90€ | 363% |
1/3
|
33% | 3,80€ | 27% |
1/3
|
||
Vincennes | 20% | 33,70€ | 574% |
1/5
|
20% | 7,80€ | 56% |
1/5
|
||
Cabourg | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/5
|
20% | 9,30€ | 86% |
1/5
|
||
Marseille Vivaux | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/7
|
14% | 2,40€ | -66% |
1/7
|
||
Mauquenchy | 13% | 7,50€ | -6% |
1/8
|
13% | 2,40€ | -70% |
1/8
|
||
Argentan | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/11
|
9% | 3,20€ | -71% |
1/11
|
||
Ranes | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Saint Galmier | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Sainte Marie Du Monts | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Savenay | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Tours | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
||
Villedieu Les Poeles | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Bernay | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Brehal | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Carentan | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Chartres | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/2
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/2
|
||
Cherbourg | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/2
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/2
|
||
Ecommoy | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
||
Gournay En Bray | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
L'Isle Sur Sorgue | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Laval | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/2
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/2
|
||
Lisieux | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/2
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/2
|
||
Mansle | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Meral | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Moulins La Marche | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Nuille Sur Vicoin | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Rochefort Sur Loire | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Saint Jean De Monts | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Salon De Provence | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Segre | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Valognes | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Agon Coutainville | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
||
Avignon | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
||
Bihorel Les Rouens | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Chateau Du Loir | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Chinon | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Domfront | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Elbeuf | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Fougeres | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Graignes | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/12
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/12
|
||
La Chartre Sur Le Loir | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Lyon La Soie | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
||
Marseille Borely | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Meslay Du Maine | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/2
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/2
|
||
Nancy | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Oraison | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Sable Sur Sarthe | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Saint Malo | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
||
Sault | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Strasbourg | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
||
Vertou | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Vire | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Alencon | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
||
Avranches | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Bordeaux Le Bouscat | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Caen | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/3
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/3
|
||
Cavaillon | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Chateaubriant | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
||
Cholet | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Dozule | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Erbray | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Francheville | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Grenade Sur Garonne | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
La Clayette | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Le Neubourg | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Mondoubleau | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Plesse | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Pontchateau | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Saint Brieuc | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Saint Omer | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Saumur | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Thouars | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Vibraye | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Vitteaux | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Angers | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
||
Bagnoles De L'Orne | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Bourigny | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Cagnes Sur Mer | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/3
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/3
|
||
Challans | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Chatillon | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Cluny | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
||
Durtal | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Evreux | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Genets | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Jullianges | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
La Ferte Vidame | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Les Andelys | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Machecoul | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Montmirail | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Neuille Pont Pierre | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Simple Gagnant | Simple Placé | |||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Discipline | Réussite | Rapport Moyen | Rentabilité | Nbre de courses | Réussite | Rapport Moyen | Rentabilité | Nbre de courses | ||
Attelé | 8% | 11,47€ | -12% |
6/78
|
18% | 4,54€ | -18% |
14/78
|
||
Monté | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/12
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/12
|
||
Simple Gagnant | Simple Placé | |||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Jockey | Réussite | Rapport Moyen | Rentabilité | Nbre de courses | Réussite | Rapport Moyen | Rentabilité | Nbre de courses | ||
Bekaert D. | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
100% | 2,40€ | 140% |
1/1
|
||
Raffin E. | 67% | 5,30€ | 253% |
4/6
|
67% | 2,08€ | 38% |
4/6
|
||
De Meyer M. | 25% | 13,90€ | 248% |
1/4
|
50% | 3,90€ | 95% |
2/4
|
||
Audrey Menager | 50% | 33,70€ | 1 585% |
1/2
|
50% | 7,80€ | 290% |
1/2
|
||
Briand Nul Code Y. A. | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/3
|
33% | 3,10€ | 3% |
1/3
|
||
Messager M. | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/10
|
20% | 4,65€ | -7% |
2/10
|
||
Jerome David | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/37
|
8% | 8,30€ | -33% |
3/37
|
||
Jehanne W. | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
||
Feron J. Ch. | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
||
Busset Th. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Benakmoume I. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Plard A. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Plihon D. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Tabesse F. | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
||
Velany A. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Chauve-Laffay Q. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Zabe Mlle A. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
David K. | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/3
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/3
|
||
Sorel J. Ch. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Merle O. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Canu E. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Cuoq J. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
David L. M. | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
||
Douaneau E. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Cerisier J. | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/2
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/2
|
||
Moquet J. F. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Ernault A. | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/2
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/2
|
||
Gallard A. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Lemoine Th. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Barthelemy D. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Callier P. | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/2
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/2
|
||
Jamault J. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Martin G. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
De Meyer F. | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
||
David A. J. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Collette A. | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
||
Hardy Mlle N. | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
||
Mlle Fauchon L. | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
||
Marton-Heliot A. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Senet J. F. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Bonnefoy A. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Bouyer G. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Menager A. | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/4
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/4
|
||
Lamy A. | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
||
Mlle Lepage A. | 0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
0% | 0€ | 0% |
0/0
|
||
Prel K. | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/1
|
||
Andre A. | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/4
|
0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/4
|
||
Simple Gagnant | Simple Placé | |||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Entraîneur | Réussite | Rapport Moyen | Rentabilité | Nbre de courses | Réussite | Rapport Moyen | Rentabilité | Nbre de courses | ||
Messager M. | 0% | 0€ | -100% |
0/17
|
24% | 3,70€ | -13% |
4/17
|
||
David J. | 8% | 11,47€ | -6% |
6/73
|
14% | 4,88€ | -33% |
10/73
|
||
Simple Gagnant | Simple Placé | |||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Jour | Réussite | Rapport Moyen | Rentabilité | Nbre de courses | Réussite | Rapport Moyen | Rentabilité | Nbre de courses | ||
Samedi | 5% | 5,30€ | -72% |
1/19
|
21% | 5,25€ | 11% |
4/19
|
||
Mercredi | 13% | 19,55€ | 144% |
2/16
|
19% | 4,07€ | -24% |
3/16
|
||
Jeudi | 9% | 5,25€ | -52% |
2/22
|
9% | 2,00€ | -82% |
2/22
|
||
Mardi | 2% | 13,90€ | -78% |
1/63
|
6% | 4,90€ | -69% |
4/63
|
||
Lundi | 0% | 0,00€ | 0% |
0/185
|
1% | 6,80€ | -96% |
1/185
|
||
Vendredi | 0% | 0,00€ | 0% |
0/22
|
0% | 0,00€ | 0% |
0/22
|
||
Dimanche | 0% | 0,00€ | 0% |
0/31
|
0% | 0,00€ | 0% |
0/31
|
||
Veuillez noter que les pronostics et les rapports ne sont pas disponibles pour les courses PMH.
Date | Hippodrome Prix |
Discipline | Cheval | Probabilités Gagnant/Placé |
Rapports SG/SP |
Cote PMU | Position |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1er mai 2024 |
Cholet
Prix Pithon Sas Distinxion |
Attelé | Jolie Fleur Du Lot | 7% 23% | - - | 5ème | |
24 avr. 2024 |
Cordemais
Prix Bar-Pmu Le Ligerien - Cordemais |
Attelé | Harpie De Jed | 19% 47% | 3€ 1,60€ | 3 | 1er |
21 avr. 2024 |
Vire
Prix Des Carrieres De Mouen (gr B) |
Attelé | Joyeuse Du Houlme | - - | - - | 5ème | |
18 avr. 2024 |
Graignes
Prix De L'Association Parentibus (gr B) |
Attelé | Jolie Fleur Du Lot | 4% 15% | - - | 4ème | |
18 avr. 2024 |
Graignes
Prix Du Secours Populaire (gr B) |
Attelé | Kiss By Kiss | 8% 23% | - - | - | |
15 avr. 2024 |
Argentan
Prix De La Dentelle D'Alencon |
Attelé | Ideal Four | 1% 6% | - - | 143 | - |
14 avr. 2024 |
Elbeuf
Prix Faux Dollar |
Attelé | Kaptain D'Hermine | - - | - - | 6ème | |
4 avr. 2024 |
Mauquenchy
Prix Des Etablissements Freulet |
Attelé | Harpie De Jed | 8% 25% | - - | 5.7 | 6ème |
1er avr. 2024 |
Villedieu Les Poeles
Prix Du Restaurant "la Ferme De M (gr B) |
Attelé | Joyeuse Du Houlme | - - | - - | 7ème | |
1er avr. 2024 |
Villedieu Les Poeles
Prix Du Restaurant "la Ferme De M (gr A) |
Attelé | Jolie Fleur Du Lot | - - | - - | 3ème | |
31 mars 2024 |
Ecommoy
Prix Du Bar Pmu Le Vincennes |
Attelé | Ideal Four | 11% 31% | - - | 6ème | |
31 mars 2024 |
Chartres
Prix Ldx Carrelage (gr B) |
Attelé | Kiss By Kiss | - - | - - | - | |
19 mars 2024 |
Meslay Du Maine
Prix Aropiz Sepal |
Attelé | Ideal Four | 9% 24% | - - | 14 | 9ème |
17 mars 2024 |
Graignes
Prix Des Jonquilles |
Monté | Kaptain D'Hermine | 3% 15% | - - | 63 | - |
17 mars 2024 |
Challans
Prix De Sallertaine (gr A) |
Attelé | Kiss By Kiss | - - | - - | 1er | |
17 mars 2024 |
Challans
Prix Assoc Courses De Machecoul (gr B) |
Attelé | Jolie Fleur Du Lot | - - | - - | 5ème | |
17 mars 2024 |
Challans
Px Conseil Regional Pays De Loire (gr A) |
Attelé | Joyeuse Du Houlme | - - | - - | 8ème | |
13 mars 2024 |
Laval
Prix Www.lamayenne.fr |
Attelé | Kaline Four | 6% 20% | - - | 16 | - |
3 mars 2024 |
Cholet
Prix Des Mimosas (gr A) |
Attelé | Joyeuse Du Houlme | - - | - - | - | |
3 mars 2024 |
Cholet
Prix Des Pins (gr A) |
Attelé | Kiss By Kiss | - - | - - | 7ème | |
27 fév. 2024 |
Nantes
Prix Santeuil |
Attelé | Harpie De Jed | 16% 40% | 5,40€ 2€ | 5.4 | 1er |
27 fév. 2024 |
Nantes
Prix Cassard |
Attelé | Ideal Four | 4% 17% | - - | 33 | 5ème |
25 fév. 2024 |
Graignes
Prix Daniel Lemeray (gr C) |
Attelé | Jasquine Du Louvet | - - | - - | - | |
25 fév. 2024 |
Graignes
Prix Daniel Lemeray (gr A) |
Attelé | Jolie Fleur Du Lot | - - | - - | 4ème | |
20 fév. 2024 |
Nantes
Prix Eleazar |
Attelé | Ideal Four | - - | - - | 8ème |